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The podcast about playing the strategy game Diplomacy face to face and online. Visit DiplomacyGames.com for more info and shownotes.

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The guys interview Oliver Lugg, a Diplomacy loving guy who has created an awesome Youtube video about the game. They also discuss stupid greedy vs smart gains, the Western Europe 1300 variant and Amby's Diplomacy variant development plans.

Malt, BrisbaneIntro & news

  • The guys are recording at Malt, a serious proper bar. Kaner quickly picks on Amby's handwriting. Then they get onto drinks. Amby laments a little Covid weight gain (0 mins 10 secs)

Interview with Oliver Lugg: Diplomacy Youtuber extraordinaire

  • The guys give a full disclosure that the interview with Oliver Lugg is being recorded after they actually catch up (4 mins)
  • Kaner & Amby welcome Oliver to the show about the quality of his Youtube video on Diplomacy - for podcast listeners, press pause now and watch the video for context: (7 mins)
  • Amby asks Oliver how he got into the game (7 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner asks about within the video whether Oliver was in a scene in the video playing the game (12 mins 15 secs)
  • Amby brings up whether there was a mathematical thread running through the video (13 mins 35 secs)
  • Amby asks about the nature of the game not being like chess (15 mins 40 secs)
  • Being an Australian who has lived in the UK, Amby asks a little about the Britishness of the video (17 mins 50 secs)
  • Amby asks about how much time was needed to pull the video together (20 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner asks about how Oliver came across the 2012 online championship - for podcast listeners, you can listen to our interview with some of the final players in episode 5 (22 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner asks about Oliver's 5 rules and what is his favorite rules when it comes to cognitive biases (25 mins 15 secs)
  • Kaner asks about AI and manipulative behavior (28 mins 20 secs)
  • Amby asks Oliver about famous individuals who played the game, and where he got his research from (31 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks about Oliver's perspectives on real world events and the nature of Diplomacy skills being played out (36 mins)
  • They talk about the nature of loss aversion (37 mins)
  • Amby asks Oliver about his interests in psychology (38 mins 20 secs)
  • Amby asks about Oliver's plans for playing the game in the future. Amby discusses the London Diplomacy Club and also previous interviewee Garry Sturley and his plans for a Diplomacy Tour of Britain (40 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner reflects on the use of Risk pieces in the video. Amby asks about Oliver's future creative endeavors. Oliver discusses his music and singing, listen on his Youtube channel (44 mins)
  • The guys wrap up the interview with Oliver (47 mins 15 secs)
  • The guys return and discuss what they enjoyed about Oliver's Diplomacy video (47 mins 45 secs)
  • They talk about Risk (53 mins 30 secs)

Presidential campaign update

  • Amby asks Kaner how his election campaign is going. The guys also give a shout out to Hal Schild, Brother Bored and Bryan Pravel, all new Patreon supporters of the show (55 mins)

Stupid greedy vs smart gains

  • Amby admits he's in a Diplomacy slump with his gameplay (58 mins)
  • He was riding high early in the year, but hasn't been following his own advice (1 hr)
  • He got back in with his Fake NewsLeak Interference Democalypse game where he failed to appreciate what was going on in the board, and put too much trust in allies (1 hr 1 mins)
  • Kaner then rubs Amby's nose in another game, A Humble Low Stakes Match where Amby had players piled onto him after being the first stabbing (1 hr 4 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby acknowledges maybe he's not such a great player and just had a big win (1 hr 7 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys then go onto to discuss that they've worked out they're in two of the same anonymous games, but don't know who is who (1 hr 8 mins 20 secs)

Around the grounds

  • In doing so Kaner & Amby transition to an Around the grounds segment, starting with the Western Europe 1300 game they're in Western Quintuple (1 hr 9 mins)
  • Western Europe 1300 Diplomacy variantThey discuss the variant map itself first for Western Europe 1300, a 5 player game with England, France, Burgundy (same as the variant Hundred) but adding in Aragon and Castile. The map was developed by Matthew Medeiros and brought to online game play by Fake Al and Oliver Auth (1 hr 10 mins)
  • The guys then start discussing how they're going, being mindful it is anonymous and they're both in it. To do so they examine each of the five players' positions (1 hr 13 mins 45 secs)
  • They then move onto their Scottish Clan Wars game, What's Under your Kilt. They discuss how the gameplay in this variant map tends to be more fighting north-south, as opposed to east-west (1 hr 23 mins)
  • They agree to talk about this game a little further on, as its still pretty early days in this game (1 hr 25 mins 45 secs)

New Diplomacy app: Diplicity

  • Kaner has discovered a new Android app for lovers of the game called Diplicity - search for it wherever you download your apps from (1 hr 26 mins 50 secs)
  • Amby discusses the wonderful aesthetics of the app and particularly the maps (1 hr 28 mins 20 secs)
  • They go onto discuss a bucketload of variants available, including two they've never seen: Twenty Twenty and a 5 player Vietnam War variant set in 1955 (1 hr 30 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner loves the autogenerator for the titles of games (1 hr 35 mins 30 secs)
  • They discuss how it may be different to the Conspiracy app where many players would go into CD, impacting the gameplay for hardcore players (1 hr 37 mins)

Amby's Diplomacy holiday plans

  • Amby is heading off for a week's holiday. He discusses his plan to do some Diplomacy variant development (1 hr 38 mins)
  • The first one he'll focus on is a Classic Standing Armies variant. But Amby will implement Kaner's suggestion for an initial build phase so Italy can build two fleets to take Tunis (1 hr 40 mins)
  • His second variant idea is really dependent on the coding skills of a Diplomacy loving developer. Based on some ideas from Kaner, Amby is planning a Black Death variant. Basically a Europa Renovatio map modified back in time approximately 100 years to the starting period of the Black Death  (1 hr 43 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby goes onto discuss how he plans to keep the board generally balanced, similar to Europa Renovatio (1 hr 48 mins)
  • He goes onto discuss how the randomness of the hurricane in the Pirates variant (a non playing player who moves and spawns randomly) could be bumped up to multiple units as the Black Death (1 hr 50 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner gives his suggestion about plague spawning (1 hr 52 mins 35 secs)
  • Kaner recommends Amby plug into tobi1's coding skills instead of pushing for Oli's time (2 hr 0 mins 50 secs)
  • They discuss what the image should be for the Black Death. Kaner suggests you do a Google images search for Hieronymus Bosch to give an idea of what he has in mind (2 hr 2 mins 50 secs)
  • The guys start wrapping up the show (2 hrs 5 mins 45 secs)

Venue: Malt, Brisbane

Drinks of choice:

Kaner: House malt lager

Amby - Hither and Yon shiraz from the McLaren Vale, and later the House malt lager

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

 

 

 

 

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The guys interview prolific Diplomacy writer Brother Bored and discuss other Diplomacy stuff including the Scottish Clan Wars variant before Amby stuffs up.

Red Hook, BrisbaneIntro & news

  • The guys are still at Red Hook (a back to back recording) (0 mins 10 secs)

Interview with Brother Bored

  • The guys introduce the interview with Brother Bored, who plays as swordsman3003 at webDip (2 mins 40 secs)
  • Brother Bored discusses how he got into Diplomacy  (3 mins 30 secs)
  • He talks about how the flexibility of online Diplomacy really worked for him, how he got competitive about the game and how he started teaching his friends about how to play (6 mins)
  • He discusses how this got him into blogging about Diplomacy so he could share his learnings, initially around gunboat. You can read his Diplomacy teaching blogs at brotherbored.com/diplomacy (8 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks about how Brother Bored addresses different learning styles in how he writes his Diplomacy content. He touches on his Gunboat solo win guides , stalemate lines and how strategy differs in gunboat compared to normal press or face to face (13 mins)
  • In comparison he's also written a 80,000 word journal about the gunboat game, The Biggest Game of All Time (18 mins)
  • Amby asks why Brother Bored's handle is different to webDip and how he choose them both (23 mins 30 secs)
  • He discusses where he gets his ideas from for posts (26 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks how much time Brother Bored spends on his blog (30 mins)
  • Amby asks whether Brother Bored gets any weird web traffic coming through (34 mins)
  • Kaner asks Brother Bored about whether he has any interest in Diplomacy variants (36 mins 20 secs)
  • Brother Bored talks about his timing bad luck on being able to play face to face (42 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks with all the online play due to Coronavirus, whether Brother Bored has got a bump in traffic due to more online Dip interest (44 mins 45 secs)
  • After discussing his dream of writing more teaching blogs for other games, Brother Bored mentions he's now become a paid Diplomacy tutor (46 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys wrap up the interview before returning to their drinks and discuss the interview. Kaner talks about the exercise of keeping a record of each moves across all players (48 mins)

The boom in online Diplomacy

  • Amby discusses how when the podcast started vDiplomacy had only 500 active players, but its now up to 1,300 active players. He wonders whether this has been driven by Coronavirus limiting face to face and turning people to online platforms (53 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner supports the etiquette and ethics of these players who keep the games to their friends in password protected games. He then mentions webDip is now at over 3,000 active players (56 mins)

More online Diplomacy chat

Scottish Clan Wars variant

  • They discuss Scottish Clan Wars a new variant over at vDip which Kaner is currently playing (1 hr 6 mins)

Scottish Clan Wars

 

  • Amby discusses the times he's been to Scotland (1 hr 10 mins)
  • Kaner talks about how he's finding the game (1 hr 12 mins)
  • And then... Amby fucked up cutting the show early, with the teaser of next episode to discuss "Stupid Greedy vs Smart Gains" (1 hr 14 mins)

Venue: Red Hook, Brisbane

Drinks of choice:

Kaner & Amby - Newtowner Australian Pale Ale by Young Henry's from Sydney, Australia

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

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The guys are back to drinking face to face as Australia starts coming out of Coronavirus lockdown. They interview Chris Martin about his Diplomacy Academy videos on Youtube. Plus they discuss Kaner's big points draw in EU IV and more.

Intro & news

  • Isolation is starting to lift in Australia as the guys introduce their venue and drinks for the episode (0 mins 10 secs)
  • They discuss the pronounciation of the vDip player ingebot, who stabbed & killed Kaner in his public press State Your Business Divided States game. Amby discusses ghee.  Kaner asks about Amby's quarantine beard (2 mins 45 secs)

Interview with Chris Martin about the Diplomacy Academy

  • The guys introduce the interview with Chris Martin (5 mins 30 secs)
  • Chris discusses his year long break from Dip, before coming back strong this year with a strong focus on his Diplomacy Academy at Youtube (6 mins)
  • Amby asks about Chris' views on the creative impact of Coronavirus on the hobby (8 mins)
  • Chris talks about the use of Backstabbr, Discord and other tools in games run by the Chicago and Minneapolis Club and now DixieCon (10 mins)
  • Amby asks about what its like commentating on Diplomacy games. Chris mentions the DixieCon live streams will be available afterwards for round one and two (13 mins 15 secs)
  • Chris talks about the hardest things about commentating live games (16 mins 20 secs)
  • Amby asks about Chris' plans for his Diplomacy Academy videos and discusses some of the most recent videos (18 mins 30 secs)
  • Chris talks about how he records the videos (21 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks what aspects of gameplay with Coronavirus does Chris see continuing once we enter the "normal world" again (24 mins)
  • They talk about online players coming to these hybrid tournaments (27 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks about the various awards in the background of Chris' videos (29 mins)
  • Amby asks if Chris plays much now. He goes onto to discuss stabs and what experienced players pick up, and how Chris then applies this to content for the Diplomacy Academy (32 mins)
  • Kaner discusses the geography of the board and how it impacts movements. Chris gives his thoughts about this and variants  (39 mins)
  • Chris encourages listeners to become Patreons of the podcast (41 mins)
  • Amby asks about other Diplomacy content creators and where Chris sees a gap in the market if you wanted to give back to the community. Chris gives his thoughts (42 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys start to wrap up the show (46 mins 30 secs)
  • After the interview the guys give their thoughts about what they learnt from Chris (47 mins 20 secs)
  • The guys mention they recorded a bonus interview with Chris now available for Patreon listeners, including what Chris has learnt in recent years from other players (49 mins)
  • They fill in Covid-Safe paperwork and talk about the government app (50 mins)

Diplomacy chit chat

  • Kaner welcomes two new Patreons to the show, although they didn't nominate which Cabinet position they wanted when we're elected President and VP (51 mins 30 secs)
  • They're back to mispronouncing ingebot's name and Kaner's game with him. They touch on Amby's soloed Divided States game and why he has that handle (53 mins)
  • Amby recently went away camping and asked Kaner to sit his games. They discuss Amby's difficulty working out how to give Kaner access with the Country Switch tool (55 mins 45 secs)
  • They walk through how to do this on vDip. The same functionality may also be on webDip - they're not sure (57 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks listeners on webDip, playDip or Backstabbr to let us know how to country switch on your platform using the comments section (1 hr 3 mins)

Kaner's EUIV game

  • The guys turn to Kaner's now finished EUIV game where he played as Hungary and got a great draw score (1 hr 3 mins 45 secs)

EUIV - Europa Renovatio Diplomacy game - final map

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Kaner outlines his early gameplay goals, focusing on eliminating Venice, he discusses how surprising countries grow in this variant (1 hr 4 mins 20 secs)
  • He discusses how his position evolved (1 hr 6 mins)
  • Kaner discusses his "where to next" moment - remember in vDip you can see previous maps by going to the Archived Maps section, or follow this link to make it easy! (1 hr 10 mins)
  • The guys discuss a brief phallic moment on the map. Can you spot it? (1 hr 13 mins)

Progress in EUIV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • They discuss the rogue unit behind Kaner's line and the amount of effort to squash it (1 hr 15 mins)
  • Kaner discusses the new Savoy player who took over a CD position who stabbed deeply into Denmark (1 hr 19 mins)
  • Amby flags how Kaner has now drawn two big maps and got a big points boost. He gives a shout out to the main players in the game: Orange, Xenon Radon, Cosmopterix, Steampunk Shogun (1 hr 20 mins)
  • Kaner now is coming 48th in the vDip Hall of Fame - although he has dropped a little since recording (1 hr 26 mins)

Wrapping up and other stuff

Venue: Red Hook, Brisbane

Drinks of choice:

Kaner & Amby - Newtowner Australian Pale Ale by Young Henry's from Sydney, Australia

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

 

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The guys take a deep dive into different Classic Diplomacy boards. Amby now owns three and so does Kaner, so we compare and contrast them all!

Intro & news

  • The guys are getting closer to isolation being lifted with talk that the pubs will be open soon. They then discuss their drinks and Amby's Larry can (0 mins 10 secs)
  • Kaner asks about Amby's quarantine beard (3 mins)
  • Tournaments seem to be all online with Amby considering participating in DixieCon, but unfortunately the timing is really bad in Australia (4 mins)

Diplomacy board talk

  • Rob Schone who's attended some of the Brisbane games, is moving back to New Zealand for a bit and gave the show two of his board (5 mins 50 secs)
  • One is the 4th edition from 2000 (with metal playing pieces), which was the same version bought from Matt in an earlier show (7 mins)
  • Kaner has three boards - two official and the magnet set he created. His main one is a larger scale canvas printed board that they use when playing in Brisbane. Kaner shows his other board (50th anniversary edition - this is the 5th edition published in 2008) where some territories are too tightly clustered together (8 mins)

5th edition of the Diplomacy board

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Amby agrees and highlights the size of the board and territory size is pretty small in his 4th edition boards, he gets out the units to give an idea of size and how they don't very well (12 mins)

Diplomacy board - 4th edition

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unit and territory size

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Kaner discusses how his magnet board is actually a small board that you can walk around with and plan moves on (14 mins 30 secs)

Kaner's magnetic Diplomacy board and size

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • They discuss dynamism (17 mins 10 secs)
  • Amby returns to the canvas map they usually play on - designed by u/trampolinebears. Kaner points out that some territories have their full name as well as abbreviations so players don't get confused when writing orders (18 mins)

The canvas Diplomacy map

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Amby talks about a competent player misordering at PoppyCon (19 mins 30 secs)
  • They grabs some more beers before Amby introduces the other board he received from Rob - a 1971 edition of Diplomacy (20 mins 40 secs)

1971 Diplomacy edition box

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • They discuss the cartoon stylized characters on the board and the color of the players on the board (22 mins 10 secs)

1971 Diplomacy board

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Kaner asks if it is a European or American board (24 mins 25 secs)
  • Kaner starts discussing the board he learnt on (26 mins 30 secs)

The version of the Diplomacy board Kaner learnt on

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • He then talks about his dream Diplomacy board (27 mins 30 secs)

Kaner's dream Diplomacy board

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • They return to the 1971 edition and Amby discusses the playing pieces (28 mins 40 secs)

Austria's playing pieces in the 1971 Diplomacy board

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • They discuss a special project for Kaner (33 mins)

A brief Around the Grounds

 

Venue: Still at home

Drinks of choice:

Kaner - XXXX Bitter from Brisbane, Australia

Amby - Larry Pale Ale from the Sunshine Coast, Australia

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

 

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May 2, 2020

Still in Lockdown

The guys are still stuck at home. Amby discusses playing in the Minnesota Diplomacy Club's online game and an around the grounds with Kaner getting a really good draw while Amby is eliminated from the Order of the Dragon.

Intro

  • Its been so long since the guys were in the pub they can't remember how to start the show. Kaner is missing pubs and massages. They discuss their drinks and Kaner prepares his tunes (0 mins 10 secs)

Amby plays with the Minnesota Diplomacy Club online

  • Amby logged on at 7 am that day to play in one of the Minnesota Diplomacy Club's Discord/Backstabbr games. He played in game two as Russia and channeled his inner Melissa Call.  (7 mins)
  • Amby said it went well until the mid-game. He was part of a 5 way draw which was based on a sum of scores system (9 mins 30 secs)
  • A number of players like Amby weren't local members of the club (12 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner asks about the technology and how the logistics all worked (13 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby discusses the strategy he used as Russia and what the other players were doing in the early game (21 mins)
  • Kaner asks about Fall 1902 when Amby's fleet in Norway was dislodged and retreated to the Norwegian Sea. He asks why Amby didn't move to Clyde to then take Liverpool (24 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner then asks about Spring 1904 when Turkey (Craig) massively stabbed Amby. He discusses Siobhan's Periscope advice about reading the player vs reading the board (27 mins)
  • They discuss how the nature of the game is changing with a mix between online and face to face (30 mins)
  • Kaner jumps back on his little robots plan (34 mins)

Shout out to our Patreon supporters: all the alcohol this episode is being paid by them!

  • Because of additional Patreon supporters and not drinking in a pub (alcohol costs are lower) the show has for the first time covered its costs! Thanks to Zach Moore, Garry Sturley, umbletheheep and Walshie (37 mins 20 secs)
  • They tease the upcoming Patreon episode that will be recorded after this normal episode (41 mins 30 secs)

Around the Grounds

  • Kaner's Silent Europe game has ended in a 7 way draw with him being part of it as the Teutonic Knights (42 mins 15 secs)
  • He discusses the rise and fall of powers on the board (44 mins 20 secs)
  • Amby points out to Kaner that he got a points boost from doing so well in the game. He's just one half decent draw to maybe make it into vDip's Top 100 players 51 40
  • The Europa Renovatio variant has just been soloed again (by slypups) but... as Denmark again in the game Holy Empire (52 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner talks about the long grind demonstrated in the graph (54 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby is surprised that Kaner's playlist brought up an artist they both like: The Dead South (57 mins 20 secs)
  • Kaner asks about Amby's Order of the Dragon game. Amby announces he's now been eliminated after being stabbed by Walshie (Lithuania) and Colonel Apricot (Ottomans). Amby's effort to marry off his heir to the Kalmar Union (Nanook) didn't work as he misread the rules. Heirs can marry but it occurs after the SC count. But as Amby's initial heir and new heir were both killed off when their SCs fell (including his capital) it eliminated him from the game even though he still had some SCs (58 mins 30 secs)
  • They discuss trust and distrust in the game and different game cultures (1 hr 4 mins)
  • Kaner talks about wanting to play the boardgame Pandemic once people can socially hang out again. He discusses creating a Diplomacy game that encouraged cooperative play (1 hr 5 mins 50 secs)
  • They discuss the Winning forum thread at vDip (1 hr 8 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys wrap up the show (1 hr 12 mins 45 secs)

Venue: Still at home

Drinks of choice:

Kaner - XXXX Bitter from Brisbane

Amby - San Valentin grenache from Spain

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

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With Coronavirus still rolling, the guys interview kevdog8, rannjohnson and Dr Recommended on Amby's soloed Undivided States game - the biggest SC count of all time. Plus lots of current games discussed. As much fun as you can have at home during self-isolation!

Intro

  • The guys introduce the show from home with all pubs still closed due to Coronavirus. They discuss their drinks and Kaner's doomsday drinking den (0 mins 10 secs)
  • Amby talks working from home and Diplomacy. Kaner gives his take (2 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks what Kaner's been up to Diplomacy wise. Kaner discusses his new Diplomacy white board inspired from the Diplomacy Briefing (5 mins 40 secs)

Kaner's Diplomacy whiteboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Amby puts on some tunes with DJ Luter One (8 mins 55 secs)

Undivided States interview

  • Kaner talks about the Youtube video he's made of the Undivided States map (below). You can also see each map as the game turns progressed on vDip. Amby (who soloed as New York) gives his thoughts on the video (11 mins 20 secs)

https://youtu.be/tnGzmgA_sbc

  • Kaner asks what were the songs Amby listened to while playing the game. They were:

The Last Night of the Proms version of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture:

Little River Band's Playing to Win (after Amby started thinking he had a chance of soloing):

  • They start to introduce the interview with the final players in Undivided States:  kevdog8 (Kentucky), rannjohnson (Florida) and Dr Recommended (Montana). ingebot was also in the final group of players (Hawaii) but wanted to put his post game analysis into a global message: (13 mins 50 secs)

Ok, so here's my thoughts on much of the game. I took over as Hawaii that had just killed California and took control of Southern half of the west coast North america. My main opponent off the bat was Texas, with an Arizona in between acting as a buffer state, and a stalemate lasted for quite a while until I launched an invasion of Mexico from two fronts, at which point I was also able to gather enough resources to kill off Arizona. With a bit of luck in northern New Mexico, as well as a very unfortunately timed NMR from Texas, this helped me breakthrough. Florida, who until then was sort of an ally against Texas, suddenly attacked me instead, not that I blame them, it's what I would have done if our mutual target suddenly collapsed and the spoils mostly went to the other party. As Texas shrunk further and became more compact, I decided it wasn't worth it to continue grinding down Texas, and turned my attention North to kill Idaho and Alaska, mostly to kill Alaska since it was clear they won't be going to hold back expanding New York, and thereby hold the northern straits in my hands, with killing my longtime ally Idaho more of an add-on thing (the success of this may have been part of why I attacked Florida with the add-on of Montana later). Florida and I made up to fight Kentucky together, I simply to defend AMR and in my mind didn't view it as aggression. During this time I also supported both Montana and Colorado to counter Kentucky. Therefore, in my calculus, myself+Florida+Colorado+Montana = coalition to stop Kentucky. As New York grew, however, this calculus changed, and given Kentucky and New York were allied, I decided that instead of trying to fight that alliance directly, why not act in a way that helps one part of the alliance in order to weaken the alliance. This led to my decision in Spring 2060 to launch an offensive along my entire front to kill Montana, Colorado and Florida to help Kentucky grow. After that, things became a slow grind, as my expectations didn't pan out, Kentucky failed to grow significantly, and as New York grew closer to the solo I sort of lost the will to fight, a few seasons I even forgot to enter moves around Alaska since entering moves for this game became part of my "daily routine" instead of a fun thing to do, I basically even stopped looking at what had happened the previous season since I no longer cared and I wouldn't have mattered or be "news" anyways, just New York slowly growing. In a way, I'm glad this game was over because the last 20 odd years of it was "suffering" for me. Sometimes I would attack Florida again, and then make peace again, just so I would have something interesting to attempt, since preventing New York from soloing was increasingly remote.

  • The interview begins with kevdog8, rannjohnson and Dr Recommended. Amby rambles a little before asking kevdog (Kentucky) about his relationship with Amby (New York) (14 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks rann (Florida) about his take on North Carolina's collapse (18 mins 15 secs)
  • They discuss the back and forth stabbing routine by New York and then Hawaii against Florida  (19 mins 20 secs)
  • Amby discusses with Dr Recommended (Montana) about where he saw the greatest threat was coming from (20 mins 50 secs)
  • Amby asks Doc about his thoughts on the Swiss cheese process New York made of him (22 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby discusses Kaner's advice that if took out Doc's final SC in the fall of his final set of moves to solo, Doc would survive. Unfortunately that wasn't the case (24 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks the guys whether they listened to the episodes and whether they worked out which player Amby was (27 mins 15 secs)
  • Spring 2078Kaner discusses Spring 2078 and Amby's concerns that Hawaii was inviting Kentucky into his supply centers (29 mins)
  • Amby discusses his concerns that Hawaii was throwing Kentucky the solo, to force New York to draw. They also discuss who had put in draw commands (it was a hidden draw games) (31 mins 15 secs)
  • They discuss what aspects of their strategy would they have changed (33 mins)
  • Kaner mentions Amby being in a similar situation with a fleet log-jam near Alaska, similar to what was discussed around the Straits of Florida (38 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks if the game wasn't gunboat would the game more likely end in a draw (39 mins 30 secs)
  • They discuss the points bump you get coming 1st, 2nd or 3rd on such a big map (40 mins 30 secs)
  • They talk about what elements of Technostar's Divided States map do they like and what if anything would they change (42 mins 20 secs)
  • Kaner asks their thoughts on the sealanes (44 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner asks about the idea of being able to convoy on rivers whether that would change the dynamics of the board (46 mins)
  • Kaner - as a non-American - asks about the guys thoughts about the geography of the map (46 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks about the pronunciation of Arkansas. Kaner asks why it isn't pronounced Ar-Kansas (49 mins 40 secs)
  • Kaner asks about early in the game eg spring 2025, whether the guys would've predicted certain players to make it to the end (50 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks if any players felt they got a lucky break in the game (52 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner and Amby begin to wrap up the interview (56 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys return. Amby's dog - a lagotto romagnolo - starts barking (57 mins 35 secs)
  • Kaner asks Amby his thoughts on the interview (59 mins 30 secs)

Around the grounds

  • Amby discusses a "Big Hitters" game he's proposed at vDip for people with 2000+ vDip points (1 hr 2 mins)
  • Amby's Cry God for Harry! game has just finished in a 9 way draw. It was an anonymous game and the guys can now advise who they played as: Amby played as England and Kaner as Genoa (1 hr 6 mins)

Final Cry God for Harry map

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • They discuss CCR's writing style (as the Golden Horde) (1 hr 8 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby mentions he created the game title as he wanted to recreate Shakespeare's Henry V and the English victories over France, only to find MAK (France) was a great ally. They go onto discuss Tanteno's position as Switzerland in the middle and various alliances (1 hr 10 mins 15 secs)
  • Kaner ponders what brought the Golden Horde to put in a draw (1 hr 14 mins 15 secs)
  • Amby briefly discusses his one-time plans to try to get to Jerusalem on crusade (1 hr 16 mins 30 secs)
  • After some more drinks, Kaner asks Amby if he's going to join any large games (1 hr 20 mins)
  • They discuss Kaner's EU IV game, but they give a more high level overview of the game (1 hr 21 mins 30 secs)

Kaner's EUIV game

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kaner's Silent Europe Diplomacy game

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • They discuss the changes in the game over time, including a brief Scottish attempt in 1585/1590 to create a kingdom in the Holy Land (despite losing all other SCs) (1 hr 35 mins)
  • They talk about ideas for what players should be doing (1 hr 42 mins)
  • Kaner asks Amby about his Discord Order of the Dragon game. He's playing as the Golden Horde and just stabbed his ally Lithuania. He talks about the bizarre rules and how different it is to a standard classic game: neutrals you can marry, thralls, vassal states, marrying your heirs to other players' heirs, dynasties being killed off if their heirs are killed (1 hr 43 mins 30 secs)

Order of the Dragon Diplomacy map

 Venue: At home

Drinks of choice:

Kaner - XXXX Bitter from Brisbane

Amby -Young Henry's Newtown Australian Pale Ale from Sydney

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!

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Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Kaner asks about the broken love hearts on the board (Arges - southern part of modern day Rumania and Novgorod - modern day St P). Amby talks about the unit placement and territory border headaches (1 hr 46 mins 15 secs)
  • Kaner asks why Amby has two heirs (1 hr 55 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner's head starts hurting but gives credit to Alex Ronke for the variant's creation (2 hrs 1 min)
  • The guys wrap up the show (2 hrs 2 mins)
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Like most of the world the guys are stuck at home thanks to the Coronavirus. They interview Garry Sturley and Andy Harris on attending the MaccCon tournament while effectively in lockdown. Plus a bit of a games and variant development update.

Intro

  • The guys introduce the show from home due to pubs all being closed due to Coronavirus. They try to replicate the feel of being in a bar  (0 mins 10 secs)
  • They talk the local government elections and Amby's vote for Kaner (7 mins 20 secs)
  • Kaner sends Amby a text - a whiteboard version of Diplomacy (8 mins 45 secs)
  • They talk about Amby's poncho antics and the special one-off release of a Patreon episode for everyone stuck at home (10 mins 40 secs)

Interview with Garry Sturley and Andy Harris on MaccCon and the Coronavirus

  • They introduce the interview (12 mins 20 secs)
  • They all discuss accents (13 mins 20 secs)
  • They discuss Andy's location in Jersey in the Channel islands (16 mins)
  • Amby asks about the MaccCon tournament and how Andy participated remotely with Facetime (18 mins)
  • Andy talks about the logistics for how he participated. He also discusses the downsides (24 mins 15 sec)
  • Garry discusses the challenges of being a tournament director and player and using Facetime (28 mins)
  • Andy discusses CoronaCon being run by the London Diplomacy Club on the weekend 4-5 April (30 mins)
  • Kaner gives his thoughts on using battle bots as a way of doing it before they discuss CoronaCon a bit more (34 mins 20 secs)
  • Amby asks what lockdown is and isn't in the UK (39 mins 30 secs)
  • They talk about drive through bottleshops, VB and Bundaberg rum (42 mins)
  • Amby asks about where the Diplomacy Tour of Britain is at now with Coronavirus (48 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby suggests the idea of a Diplomacy Tour of Britain based on the territories on the board. Andy has a suggestion for a tournament in Jersey (51 mins 15 secs)
  • Amby asks how Andy and Garry how they placed in the game they played at MaccCon (56 mins)
  • Kaner asks about the scoring system for the tournament (58 mins)
  • Amby asks about how British gameplay is different to European gameplay (59 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks what Andy means by "diploming" (1 hr 4 mins 30 secs)
  • Garry discusses the use of counters on the board (1 hr 5 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks Garry how his gameplay differs between face-to-face and online Diplomacy. Garry plays as Phlegmatic over at PlayDip and Diplomacc at webDip (1 hr 8 mins 30 secs)
  • Garry recently signed up to be one of our Patreons. Amby asks what role he's interested in doing in the US Government once Kaner is elected president. Garry gives his answer for what role he'll be doing: Ambassador to Belgium (1 hr 13 mins 15 secs)
  • Andy asks about what the Australian Diplomacy scene is like if he visits (1 hr 15 mins)
  • The guys wrap up the interview (1 hr 19 mins)

Post interview chat

  • They guys return with new drinks. Kaner talks about his robot idea in more detail (1 hr 19 mins 40 secs)
  • Kaner asks Amby what he got out of the interview and they talk about Coronavirus and the game (1 hr 27 mins)

Around the grounds

  • Kaner discusses him getting his ass kicked in EU IV (1 hr 32 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby discusses a small break from alcohol after PoppyCon (1  hr 37 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner asks about Amby's games. He thinks his Cry God for Harry game is heading to a draw. His other game Fake NewsLeak Interference Democalypse is continuing ok. He says he's dead as England and Canada in the 1812 Overture game and about to start playing in Order of the Dragon. (1 hr 40 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby discusses how Order of the Dragon works  (1 hr 44 mins)
  • Kaner shares his screen and discusses new variants in development at vDip: Pits of Horror, Scottish Clan Wars, Tiglath-Pileser (1 hr 48 mins 30 secs)
  • They talk about making new variants before wrapping up the show (1 hr 52 mins 30 secs)

Venue: At home

Drinks of choice:

Kaner - Cloudy Sommersby apple cider

Amby - Brand's Laira Barrelman cabernet sauvignon from the Coonawarra

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon, plus you get extra podcast episodes!

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

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Kaner and Amby are hammered. They give their take on Day 1 of PoppyCon. Released first on Patreon, we wanted to share this with all you in lockdown going crazy due to the Coronavirus. Hope you, your family and friends are well.

The guys discuss Day 1 of gameplay at PoppyCon in Melbourne

  • Amby complains its cold (1 min 15 secs)
  • Amby gets tangled in a poncho (2 mins 35 secs)
  • They discuss Austria getting eliminated from 5 SCs to zero in a single turn (3 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner was tempted to wipe Amby off the board in game one. Amby (Germany) was included in the draw with 1 SC, Kaner (England) ended in the draw with 8 SC (4 mins 45 secs)
  • The Kaner asks Amby about his "How about we go get a beer" moment in game two when Amby (Turkey) was attempting to reconcile after stabbing Tim (Russia). Amby ended up in a draw with 9 SCs. Kaner wasn't in game two  (6 mins 10 secs)
  • Kaner reflects his highlight of the game with the German army in Berlin taking the slow road to Norway. He also discusses Peter MacNamara's come back as England (10 mins)
  • Kaner asks Amby why he didn't push harder against Russia (15 mins 45 secs)
  • They move onto discuss game three briefy (16 mins 40 secs)
  • Amby returns back to game one and asks Kaner what he thought of Amby's (Germany) opening (17 mins 15 secs)
  • Amby discusses his switcharoo with Richard (Turkey) in discussions with Robert (Russia) (20 mins 50 secs)
  • Amby asks Kaner how he thinks he's going to go the next day for the remainder of game three (22 mins 55 secs)
  • They discuss how Kaner kept putting in incorrect orders as he drank more cider (23 mins 45 secs)
  • They discuss the impact of Coronavirus on the number of players at the tournament (25 mins)
  • Kaner wraps up the show (25 mins 30 secs)

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Venue: PoppyCon, Melbourne

Drinks of choice:

Kaner - A can

Amby - A glass

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The guys make it to Melbourne for PoppyCon and discuss their plans for the tournament, an interview with host Melissa Call, and follow up interview with multi-WDC winner Andrew Goff and Melissa, before a wrap up of Amby's Divided States game and more.

Intro, news & their thoughts on what to do at the tournament

  • Saint & Rogue, MelbourneThe guys introduce the show, making it to Melbourne before the Coronavirus really started impacting. They introduce their drinks, venue and Kaner asks Amby what is game plans are for the PoppyCon tournament. Kaner goes onto give some history lessons about Victoria  (0 mins 10 secs)
  • They give some local history (4 mins)
  • They talk a little Coronavirus (6 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner discusses his three build England plan for the tournament. Amby asks about the prospects of a four build Russia and getting a bluewater Russian fleet in the Med to take Tunis in 1903. They go on to talk about how face to face games lend themselves more to crazy alliances happening compared to online (8 mins 55 secs)

Interview with Melissa Call

  • The interview starts with Melissa (Mel) Call, the host of the PoppyCon tournament. Before recording Kaner asked Mel what her favourite country to play is. Her average SC count playing as Russia in Australia is 11 and hasn't been eliminated locally. Amby asks about what strategy do you need to follow to play a good Russia (18 mins)
  • Kaner reflects on his Russian gameplay, which Mel advises on. Mel talks about not being the first person to 10 SC's (22 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner discusses Mel's tactic of getting bickering happening in the centre of the board (24 mins 50 secs)
  • She discusses the value of a Russian-German alliance (26 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner asks about which alliance on the board gets her worried as Russia (28 mins 15 secs)
  • Amby asks if Mel has any particular plans for this tournament. Kaner asks why France is her least favourite country. Mel also gives her thoughts as England and the English Channel (30 mins)
  • Amby asks what the PoppyCon tournament is all about (33 mins 25 secs)
  • Amby discusses how there is a certain thrill to a face to face tournament and his one time he's replicated it in the online environment (40 mins)
  • Amby asks Mel how she feels when she's been betrayed (42 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner reflects how experienced players and relatively new players react very differently to a well orchestrated stab (43 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks Mel as a female Diplomacy player, how she feels she's been treated and how to get more women into the game (45 mins 15 secs)
  • They discuss choice of words and deception (52 mins)
  • Mel talks about playing people, not countries (54 mins)
  • Amby asks about how Mel's strategy may change if she's up against a great player (54 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks how to approach things if your ally is showing tell-signs, impacting your alliance (57 mins 30 secs)

Interview with Andrew Goff and Melissa Call

  • Andrew Goff (Goffy) joins the interview, as well as Mel's husband Matt and Goffy's partner Albert (59 mins)
  • They return to the earlier topic of dealing with good players (60 mins)
  • Amby asks Goffy and Mel what new players should do when it comes to trusting players (1 hr 1 min 15 secs)
  • Goffy talks about new players learning from their mistake and finding someone you can trust and learn from them (1 hr 5 mins)
  • Amby asks Mel about the bullshit detector and trust (1 hr 6 mins 15 secs)
  • They discuss Goffy's "little drops of poison" and how other players view his gameplay. He gives his perspective on that (1 hr 10 mins 30 secs)
  • Goffy talks about not worrying how many builds he gets in 1901, but then goes onto discuss a massive opening (1 hr 15 mins)
  • He recommends online players coming to face to face and doing things they've never done before and watching the tight timeframes (1 hr 18 mins)
  • Mel reflects that you can read a lot about the culture of the tournament by reading the rules. Goffy stresses not pissing off the tournament director (1 hr 20 mins 30 sec)
  • Goffy gives his thoughts on tournaments with and without top boards (1 hr 27 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks what a newbie player should worry about (1 hr 28 mins 30 secs)
  • They start discussing intermediate player strategy (1 hr 34 mins)
  • Goffy announces the 2021 WDC will be held Battlefield Bangkok at the end of July 2021. He outlines how accommodation is great value in the area and its a fantastic venue (1 hr 35 mins 40 secs)
  • Kaner gives a big wrap about Bangkok (1 hr 37 mins 50 secs)
  • Goffy discusses a number of events for players at WDC 2021 (1 hr 39 mins)
  • Goffy says he won't be playing as he'll the tournament director (1 hr 40 mins)
  • Kaner asks Goffy about the culture of Australians spying on players' writing orders. They expand on gamesmanship, culture and rules (1 hr 43 mins)
  • Goffy discusses you're only really new in tournaments for 3 or 4 games and how to do well in a tournament, although maybe not necessarily win (1 hr 48 mins 30 secs)
  • Goffy mentions how some US players can hold a grudge. He then discusses how European games often end (1 hr 55 mins 30 secs)
  • He talks about fake orders and unguarding your orders (2 hrs)
  • His next intermediate tip is to not have favourite countries, alliances and players (2 hrs 30 mins 50 secs)
  • Amby asks if when the countries are assigned in a tournament, does Goffy have a predetermined plan in mind (2 hrs 4 mins 30 secs)
  • They discuss the Flying Dutchman (illegally having an extra unit on the board) and why tricks are for kids (2 hrs 9 mins 30 secs)
  • They wrap up the interview (2 hrs 13 mins)

Post interview chat

  • Kaner suggests the idea of recording discussions at the tournament (2 hrs 14 mins)
  • The guys discuss hats (2 hrs 16 mins)
  • They return to the conversation about recording discussions (2 hrs 18 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby suggests that listeners give us a Shit Sandwich: something complementary, something you don't like and then end on something complementary again (2 hrs 19 mins 50 secs)

Amby solos his 50 player Divided States game

  • Amby has won the Undivided States game that they've been talking about for almost two years. Amby starts discussing what worked in his favor (2 hrs 20 mins 45 secs)

Undivided states final

 

  • Kaner asks what its like ordering 127 units to order. In answering Amby talks about the holding vs attacking (2 hrs 23 mins 10 secs)
  • Kaner asks Amby how it approached discussions on the game in the podcast and whether listeners at some point worked out who Amby was despite it being an anonymous game (2 hrs 24 mins 50 secs)
  • Kaner then goes onto discuss Amby's hopes on rankings and how that went (2 hrs 28 mins 40 secs)

Future game plans & Diplomacy projects

  • Amby discusses his Discord game and how he's interested in one or two of nopunin10did's upcoming Discord games: Saga of the Nine and Order of the Dragon. He also discusses getting more involved in the Nexus tournament (2 hrs 30 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner asks Amby, aside from this, whether he's going to take a break from variants (2 hrs 32 mins 40 secs)
  • Amby mentions how the Minnesota Diplomacy Club and Windy City Weasles found Meetup brought in a lot of extra face to face players (2 hrs 33 mins 30 secs) [Amby post-episode: we obviously WON'T be doing this until the whole Coronavirus thing is under control]
  • Kaner asks whether Amby might jump back into variant creation. Amby gives his thoughts on what he'd tackle, first up is a Classic map with standing neutrals. Kaner suggests maybe changing the opening unit types to a build start so Italy isn't totally hamstrung (2 hrs 36 mins)
  • Amby discusses his next cab off the rank, a Roman Empire Crisis of the Third Century  variant (see previous discussion on this idea in episode 22) (2 hrs 41 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby briefly touches on a "true" Cold War map (but forgets about detail) and then discusses a proto-historical Colonial map of the American east coast and how to approach gunpowder European powers against Native Americans (2 hrs 45 mins 20 secs)
  • After another drink Kaner proposes a Khmer Empire map in southeast Asia. He goes onto discuss gopher's idea of a White Russia vs Red Russia variant. Then he gives his thoughts of the colonisation of the East Indies (2 hrs 48 mins 45 secs)
  • They talk Melbourne shopping before announcing the show is no longer an Amazon affiliate (2 hrs 52 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner talks about being a Victorian with mix-allegiances and Australian namesays (2 hrs 55 mins)
  • The guys start wrapping up the episode (3 hrs 0 mins 45 secs)

Venue: Saint and Rogue, Melbourne

Drinks of choice:

Kaner - White Rabbit dark ale from Healesville, Victoria

Amby - Tooborak American Gunslinger's pale ale from the Tooborak, Victoria

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

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March 7, 2020

The Mongolian Empire

The guys talk Corona Virus, Primaries, the new Mongolian Empire variant, current games & much more.

Intro and news

  • Doo-Bop Bar, BrisbaneThe guys introduce the show and quickly get into discussions around what's going on in the world (0 mins 10 secs)
  • Amby explains why Hitler had a funny mustache (1 mins 45 secs)
  • They discuss the Super Tuesday primaries and how their presidential campaign is going. Amby explains why they've got such a good chance of winning the election (2 mins 25 secs)
  • They belatedly intro the bar and drinks, before Amby explains his vote winning strategy (4 mins 20 secs)
  • The guys give a hat tip to our latest Patreon - Zachery Moore from the Minnesota Diplomacy Club - who'll be our Secretary of Convoy Operations when we're elected. If you want to contribute and become a Cabinet Secretary when we're elected and get our exclusive extra Patreon episodes visit https://www.patreon.com/DiplomacyGames (9 mins 10 secs)
  • Amby delivers a shit sandwich, advising the Canetoad Classic tournament in Brisbane is being postponed a year (12 mins)

The Mongolian Empire variant

  • Kaner tries reducing road noise with drinks menusA variant created by Kaner many years ago has at last come to life on vDip! After extra work by ninjanrd and coding by Flame from the Russian Diplomacy site, it can now be played (14 mins 20 secs)

The Mongolian Empire

 

  • Amby congratulates Kaner and creates a similarly with Dan Carlin's incredible  Wrath of the Khans series (16 mins)
  • Kaner outlines the 11 powers in the game (17 mins 20 secs)
  • Kaner explains why the map is orientated east-west instead of north-south (20 mins)
  • He goes onto discuss the affect of the Black Death on units/SCs (21 mins 35 secs)
  • Kaner comes up with a clever plan to reduce the amount of noise coming from the tow truck (24 mins 25 secs)
  • He then discusses the role of the Silk Roads and Trade Winds (25 mins 40 secs)
  • They talk dogs in impoundment yards. Amby diverges for a moment and talks about the kids TV show "Bluey" that is created a stone's throw from many of the pubs they've recorded at in Fortitude Valley (30 mins)
  • Amby then has a flash back to the 70's Australian police show also called "Bluey" that was then parodied in the early 90's by Australia's The Late Show, as "Bargearse" - a fat cop whose always farting, solving crimes by accident (31 mins 20 secs)
  • Kaner goes back to Mongolian Empire and talks about geographic complexities from rivers, bridges, mountains, the Great Wall of China and city states with standing neutral armies (32 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks Kaner what it feels like to see something he's created now being played by people (38 mins)
  • The guys return with new drinks and new batteries in the recorder (39 mins 20 secs)

Around the grounds

1812 Overture game update

 

 

  • They discuss whether they should be playing more classic games online to improve their face to face gameplay and strategies (48 mins)
  • The guys talk about Kaner's Europa Renovatio games (52 mins)
  • Kaner talks about his Silent Europe game (54 mins)

Kaner's Silent Europe game

  • Amby reflects that Kaner's ranking may soon be getting an uptick with how he's currently going in multiple game (58 mins 55 secs)
  • Amby talks about his Europa Renovatio game and briefly his Undivided States game (1 hr 2 mins 30 secs)
  • Next up is Amby's involvement in G-Man's Cloak and Dagger series in the World Diplomacy X game Fake NewsLeak Interference Democalypse (1 hr 4 mins)
  • They start wrapping up the show so they can record a bonus Patreon episode. Amby reminds Americans to write-in "Kaner" in their primary voting. Amby asks Kaner if he minds also running for Lord Mayor of Brisbane (1 hr 8 mins)

Venue: Doo-Bop Bar, Brisbane

Drinks of choice:

Kaner - Young Henry's cloudy cider from Sydney

Amby - Kalleske Moppa shiraz from the Barossa Valley

Just a reminder you can support the show by giving it 5 stars on iTunes or Stitcher. And don't forget if you want to help improve the audio equipment... or get the guys more drunk, you can also donate at Patreon

Lastly, don't forget to subscribe so you get the latest Diplomacy Games episodes straight to your phone.

Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka "The General" for his rockin' intro tune.

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